Talk:List of Disney's Sing-Along Songs video releases

About Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah
Let's not automatically believe Wikipedia about everything; that erroneous December 23 release date was suggested at a time when very little was known about home video compared to today. Now that Billboard and other magazines are easily available online, I prefer to refer to them where I'm able to for more accurate release dates. --IlCattivo25 (talk) 01:57, 15 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Alright. I understand now. 2601:4C4:4000:A8C0:5494:9F77:C31C:8013 02:05, 15 May 2022 (UTC)


 * You know what’s also erroneous? I Love To Laugh was believed to be released on 12-28-1990, but clearly it doesn’t make sense to release anything three days after Christmas. In addition, copyright years are production years instead of the actual release years. 2601:4C4:4000:A8C0:89CE:FF4:DB9A:E170 02:39, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

I Love to Laugh
Clearly, I doubt that "Sing-Along Songs: I Love to Laugh" is 1990, because as systemoperator/Jiminy Cricket pointed out, it would not make sense to release anything three days after Christmas.

Besides, Disney’s “The Jungle Book” completed production at the end of 1966, shortly after the death of Walt Disney himself, but never got released theatrically until fall 1967. Does that mean it’s 1966? NOPE, DEFINITELY NOT AT ALL, IT'S STILL 1967.

I also would like to point out that some February 1992 Disney video releases still have 1991 copyright dates. As systemoperator/Jiminy Cricket also pointed out, that’s because the copyright year was the year the project had started and completed production. That clearly means the Feb 1992 video releases with 1991 dates were still 1992 and not 1991.

There obviously ain’t no such thing as a copyright year being a release year. I don’t really want to be rude, but it’s sadly true.

So, as for “Sing-Along Songs: I Love to Laugh”, what was the original release date? Which magazines prove whether this is 1990 or 1991?

2601:4C4:4000:A8C0:89CE:FF4:DB9A:E170 02:38, 18 May 2022 (UTC)


 * That's what I intend to find out. --IlCattivo25 (talk) 04:11, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

If the release date is not in 1990 at all, then it most likely had to be either January or February of 1991. Some magazines/billboards should prove whether this is late 1990 or early '91.

There might even exist 1989 tapes with 1988 dates. 69.85.235.224 12:15, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Be Our Guest
@IlCattivo25

Alright. So, we all know that "Be Our Guest" was released in the Sing-Along Songs line on June 19, 1992. But then, shortly afterwards, Bourne Co. threatened legal action due to the original program containing "Little Wooden Head" from "Pinocchio", which Bourne had publishing rights to.

As a result, Disney had to create a new master print of the program. They had to completely edit out the song, and remove the first half of the lead-out music from the segment at the end of the song [stock clip from a "You Are a Human Animal" short] where Jiminy Cricket (voice: Eddie Carroll) says, "How did you like that music?" and introduces "Bella Notte" from "Lady and the Tramp".

It took three months for Disney and its tape duplication service, Technicolor Videocassette, to mass-produce the edited program, before Disney could release it again. The earliest copies of the edited program were probably printed around early July 1992. And the release date was sometime in October of 1992, I believe.

My question is, was the edited program of "Be Our Guest" released to coincide with the video release of "Beauty and the Beast"? Or was it sometime in early/mid October 1992?

Which magazines mention the edited program, and the actual release date of it?

69.85.235.233 19:24, 18 May 2022 (UTC)

Ink-Labels without Header and Volume Number
Vol. 11 ink-label retains the Disney's header and the volume number on the tape label, in addition to the Sorcerer Mickey placement, but when ink-labels for the pre-Dec 1990 titles were made, all of those had to be removed. So it seems that this happened when the three "A Goof Troop" volumes were released on video, because those had no Sorcerer Mickey placement at all. 69.85.235.46 12:26, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

About volume alterations

 * When "Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah" and "Heigh-Ho" were re-issued on May 3, 1990 in the second season of the DSAS line, the former program had to be re-labeled vol. 2, with the latter re-labeled vol. 1. From my knowledge, not only was this because "Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs" predated "Song of the South"; it was also because people were beginning to complain about the portrayal of African-Americans in the latter film (this was also why the latter film was later withdrawn permanently in Dec. 2001).


 * However, I’m still wondering — when "The Bare Necessities" and "You Can Fly" were also reissued in the second season, why did the former program have to be re-labeled vol. 4, with the latter re-labeled vol. 3? Was this because "Peter Pan" predated "The Jungle Book" or something like that?

2601:4C4:4000:A8C0:7961:F99A:3CEE:188B 16:44, 24 May 2022 (UTC)


 * You bring up an interesting theory. It's plausible the volumes were numbered in order of the original releases of the films featured. --IlCattivo25 (talk) 22:13, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

So apparently "The Bare Necessities" must've been re-labeled vol. 4 with "You Can Fly" re-labeled vol. 3 due to "Peter Pan" predating "The Jungle Book"...

I've also noticed that "Very Merry Christmas Songs" had to be relabeled vol. 8 when re-issued in late 1990, with "Fun with Music" August 1990 reissue re-labeled vol. 5, and that's one volume alteration I'm confused about. 69.85.235.46 13:03, 25 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Perhaps it's because it was the Christmas volume? --IlCattivo25 (talk) 14:08, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Either that, or probably the same reason they mastered a second 1990 version of the former with the 1988 promo retained, or something like that... 69.85.235.48 18:29, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Ink Labels for Pre-December 1990 Titles
In order for a pre-December 1990 volume in this series to have the newer ink label texture from 1992, what is the earliest print date to do so, if the release had to be in October? 2601:4C4:4000:A8C0:5182:9FEA:B6BF:DD2C 10:22, 25 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Good question. I'm going to have to leave it to the community to contribute print dates on their ink label copies if they have them, and also have a look at some of my own in the near future. --IlCattivo25 (talk) 14:07, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

...and the weird thing is, a YouTube user named Richard Hibbard states that "most copies with the promo from "I Love to Laugh" are ink-label copies". However, his copy of "The Bare Necessities" was printed August 13, 1991, and still has the 1988 Betamax sticker-label, but the thumbnail picture on the opening and closing uploaded to YouTube by him shows the ink-label copy. Proof in the comments about the statement is located here.

Seriously, that ink-label had to be from circa 1992/1993, not 1991... 69.85.235.46 14:29, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Since "I Love to Laugh" earliest print date to have an ink-label is January 31, 1991, I'm guessing the ink-labels of the pre-December 1990 volumes had to have began printing around September 1992. 69.85.235.48 18:05, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Two hours ago, I’ve received the 1990 VHS of "SAS: Heigh-Ho". Was factory sealed when I got it, and the tape inside had the 1992 tape label. However, my copy was printed on March 31, 1993. 2601:4C4:4000:A8C0:79F4:1E0F:CA79:4006 02:58, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

One Sing-Along Songs Volume Never Got to the Third Season of the Series
"Fun with Music" was never re-packaged again, after the last re-packaging in October 1992. As a result, all the print dates after March 1994 for this volume still retained either the Dec. 1990 cover, or Oct. 1992 cover, and had either the 1991, or original May 1989 print-master.

Was "Oliver & Company" a box-office flop at this time? Maybe that's why Disney never reissued "Fun with Music" in the third season? 69.85.235.46 14:56, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

First Season (1986-89) Volumes
Clearly, Disney started attaching volume numbers for first-season titles in this series when they re-issued them in the second season in 1990. The only volume to have a typo on the copyright date is obviously "I Love to Laugh" and that was originally in the second season. And it's completely erroneous and inaccurate to list "Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Dah" and "Heigh-Ho" as December 23, 1986. What if Disney had a typo on the volume numbers? What if they could've had no reason to re-label the volumes of the titles at all? 69.85.235.48 18:23, 26 May 2022 (UTC)